Defensive stalemates vs defensive wins consensus
11 days ago
VAELINN
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VAELINN
906 Respect
11 days ago
Should a defensive stalemate count as a win for the defender?
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11 days ago
BARUNAVA
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BARUNAVA
17 Respect
11 days ago
Yes because defending means saving yourself. If you manage to get yourself out of hospital then the purpose is complete.
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11 days ago
JACE420
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JACE420
2 Respect
11 days ago
Me personally as a only stat agility build will like this to be added because well I dont attack often when people attack me they draw alot so I would like to see this implemented
11 days ago
KWYY
551 Total Respect
KWYY
551 Respect
11 days ago
I'll abstain from voting on this one due to the fact my build breaks this to a pretty huge degree when it comes to getting defends etc.
A win should be a win (the attacker loses from running out of health). A loss should be a loss (the defender loses due to running out of health).
As much as I'd love those extra stats - just no.
Last Edited 24/09/2026, 18:09:48
11 days ago
SHREDDERCHU
214 Total Respect
SHREDDERCHU
214 Respect
11 days ago
I voted yes, but I'm on the fence with this one, it's a draw and it's a successful defend, but I'm unsure whether I'd consider it as a win, I'd probably prefer it being considered as a defender getting a stalemate, with an achievement for stalemates as well as defends, and dogs getting half the exp when the defender gets a stalemate compared to a defend. But there were no 3rd option
11 days ago
SCOTIA
30 Total Respect
SCOTIA
30 Respect
11 days ago
I'll reiterate my logic in my last post about this -
If, in real life, someone attacks me and I am able to escape, I would count that as a win, and I doubt anyone who has actually been in a fight would disagree.
In short, yes, I think defensive stalemates should be counted as a win, for the defender.
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10 days ago
JARI
417 Total Respect
JARI
417 Respect
10 days ago
My opinion is yes. It should count as a win/defend.
Like everyone else said, if I can escape without dying I would consider it a win.
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10 days ago
BOONIESTEEP
298 Total Respect
BOONIESTEEP
298 Respect
10 days ago
I voted yes, but I'm on the fence with this one, it's a draw and it's a successful defend, but I'm unsure whether I'd consider it as a win, I'd probably prefer it being considered as a defender getting a stalemate, with an achievement for stalemates as well as defends, and dogs getting half the exp when the defender gets a stalemate compared to a defend. But there were no 3rd option
SHREDDERCHU - 24/09/2026, 18:16:23
Agree with this
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10 days ago
RENO_CHALAMET
63 Total Respect
RENO_CHALAMET
63 Respect
10 days ago
I voted no because a draw is a draw. I think achievement points is not such a bad idea though for draws
A couple of people have raised the idea that a defensive stalemate should actually be counted as a win for the defender (for achievements and dog experience considerations) and my initial feeling was that a defensive win should be a fight where the defender put the attacker in the hospital.
But I wanted to raise this to the community and see if that is the community consensus as well, or if defensive stalemates should indeed count as a "win" for the purposes of achievements and dog experience gains.
So I am putting this poll together to get community input on the topic.
To be sure we are all on the same page as far as what a defensive stalemate is, I am referring to an attack where the initiator was not able to put the defender in the hospital and the defender was not able to put the attacker in the hospital.